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Ask Lil E. Um
Do you have unanswered questions about the genus Lilium? We’ll help you find the answers. Just Contact Us to send your inquiry. Be sure to reference “Ask Lil E. Um” and we’ll find a lily expert with the best advice.   

Dear Lil,
I live in Birmingham, Alabama and recently bought two calla lily plants in pots and the lillies were already in bloom. Each plant had several pink blooms.  I re-potted into containers. The bloom stalks almost immediately began to fall over. The greenery has thrived on one of the plants, but is turning yellow on the other. The blooms are beginning to die on both plants; However, one plant has two new blooms. They are in full sun and very soon will be exposed to very high humidity.
Is it normal for the blooms to die off? Should I cut the dead blooms at the base of the plant or at the base of the bloom?; Should I support the stems with small stakes? What type of plant food and fertilizer should I use?
Please give me some information on how to care for these beautiful plants.
Thank you so much.
Laurette

Hi Laurette,
Calla lilies are not true lilies, but are arum (jack-in-the-pulpit) family members, genus Zantedeschia. They are stemless plants whose flowers and leaves rise directly from rhizomes, not bulbs. While our focus is on the genus lilium, there is often confusion when the name of 'Lily' is given to plants that are not lilium. I contacted an experienced gardener in the Atlanta, Georgia area, not as far from you as we are here in Minnesota. She responded with a great resource for you to check out. If you were to 'Google' Zantedeschia you may find even more information online.
Thank you for your questions and good luck with your Calla Lilies.
-Lil

Dear Laurette,
I'd advise a visit to another website: http://www.calla-lilies.com/gardencallainfo.cfm You'll find some great Calla Lily culture info there. Your Calla Lilies really should go into the garden soil and stay there until the weather cools. Here in Atlanta, I have never been able to grow them, but some folks can in a microclimate where they stay protected and moist. Atlanta is right in line with Birmingham so I think your chances of keeping them outside all year around is not good. You say though that in the pot, it seems they are declining. They only put on one bloom a year so, unfortunately, your show may be over.
Carolyn Hawkins

Dear Lil,
I am planting some tiger lilies in my yard. How far away should they be kept from other lilies to prevent the spread of virus and how are lily viruses transmitted anyway?
Sonya
Hi Sonya,

Thank you for your question about Tiger Lilies. I know more folks will be interested to learn the answer. For the best response, I contacted award-winning lily grower and hybridizer Warren Summers, who was happy to share his thoughts with us. Warren has also agreed to be our NSLS 2006 Autumn Educational Speaker on September 30th. Join us for a wonderful guided tour of "The Lilies of Japan." But now, here is Warren's response.
Lil E. Um

Sonya, Tiger lilies carry virus as do most lilies which have been in the garden for a year or two. When lilies which are not virus tolerant catch multiple viruses, they loose vigor, don't grow as well nor produce as many flowers. Some lilies may even show signs of virus with ugly streaking in their foliage. I usually discard those. Virus is spread by garden pests, typically aphids, which suck on the lilies and move from plant to plant. I would plant the tiger lilies 15 to 20 feet away from my virus free lilies and not be overly concerned that they might be virus-ed. Any lily worth its salt, will still perform reasonably well when it catches a virus. In my garden, if a lily doesn't perform well, it's usually replaced with a variety that will do better. Try growing a few of the time tested virus tolerant varieties such as "Red Velvet", "Lime Ice", "Iowa Rose", "Northern Carillon", "Scheherazade", "Leslie Woodriff", etc. .

Warren Summers


Dear Lil,
I presently have some asiatic and some oriental lilies.  From what I understand, the asiatics like full sun but the orientals like it a little more shady.  At Easter time I purchased an LA lily and would like to attempt to plant it in my garden.  Which location would better suit the LA lily?  What do you think are my chances that it will survive? 
Eileen

Hi Eileen,
I contacted Pete and Francine Nelson, well known lily growers in the Mora, Minnesota area, and have received more information concerning your questions.  I hope you will find it useful. Thank you very much for contacting our website.  Please let us know if you have any other lily growing questions.
Best regards,
Lil E. Um

Eileen,
You are correct that asiatic lilies perform the best in a full sun location. They will tend to lean toward the sun if they are planted where it is partly shaded. Oriental's will also grow and bloom beautifully in full sun, but some late afternoon shade will help them hold their color a little better. Oriental lilies have such a lovely fragrance that even though they don't survive our zone 3 climate long-term I would not want to have a summer without at least a few in our garden.

The LA Hybrid you purchased at Easter will grow very well in zone 3 or higher (you didn't state your growing zone) when you plant it in the ground. LA's tend to be a little shorter in height than their parents the Longiflorum Lily (Easter Lily) and the Asiatic Lily. They are very prolific growers with quite often a wider flower form giving lots of color and bloom on many stems. They bloom close to the same time as the asiatics. We grow many LA's and they have performed very well and have shown good increase over the years.

I hope the LA Hybrid you purchased and the other lilies you plant give you lots of enjoyment. To us lilies are the "best of the best" in the summer garden.
Pete & Francine Nelson


Message:
This is my first visit to the web site as I have a new martagon & wanted to identify it. I might have a picture(s) to submit to the martagon CD & was wondering if it was finished or are you still developing it? Sounded like it might be put together after the 2004 growing season. I have a lovely picture of L. tsingtauense nestled between some hostas & with my gnome garden in front complete with cabin, pond, ducks, turtles, bear & bald eagle landing on a birch branch. My neighbors passing by love it so I'd be willing to submit that picture if you still need any. Keep up the good work. Thanks, Nancy

Dear Nancy,
Thank you for your interest in our Martagons! CD project. We are indeed in the process of acquiring even more great culture information from the US, Canada and Europe. There will also be more photos included in the next edition. We expect that our CD will be the best educational tool for information and photographs of martagons ever created. I am going to forward this email to our Martagons! CD editor. I believe that he may be interested in seeing your photo. We are very interested in documenting with close-up photos, the inflorescence and also wider shots of the lily from head to toe - showing its stem and whorled leaves. We anticipate more photos will be taken this bloom season and will be shared with us. We plan to publish the new Martagons! CD next winter.
Since martagon lilies are still unusual to find growing in home gardens, they are real showstoppers once they are established. It sounds like your neighbors have a real appreciation for your martagons!
We appreciate your inquiry,
Denese Erickson
NSLS President


Message:
This is my 2nd question for you today. I just finished looking at the list of lily hybrids & some of the photos. I noticed there are quite a few listed for which we have no photos. I would be nice to get more from members so people accessing our website can enjoy them & perhaps identify some they have in their own gardens. I have a few lilies not listed on the list & wonder if you want pictures of them? I am just getting familiar with our new digital camera & enjoy flower photography so would try & send you pictures of these if you need them.
Thank-you, Happy gardening. Nancy

Dear Nancy,
Thank you for your email. It's great to know that our website is being well visited. The photos of lilies that we have on our site are those of officially registered Minnesota hybridized lilies. Our site is not able to maintain a library of photos of all cultivars of the genus lilium. Wouldn't that be a fabulous library? We are trying to focus just on lilies that have been bred and created here in Minnesota. If you have any of the lilies on the list that we have online, it would be great to get images of those particular lilies. I spoke to a member today who told me that she has a number of our Minnesota heritage lilies in her garden. She plans on copying the list we have online and going into her garden and documenting the MN lilies that she has growing there. We will be uploading those photos as we receive them. Unfortunately, I've been told that some of the lilies that are on our list, may no longer exist. I am hoping that we will get photos of as many as possible.

We are a regional affiliate of the North American Lily Society. I know that they are in the process of re-tooling their website and they are expanding its photo gallery. Perhaps they would welcome your digital lily contributions. You may find the NALS website at lilies.org .

Best regards,
Denese Erickson
NSLS President

Message:
Would like to purchase Martagon bulbs. How do I go about it...thank you Irene

Good Morning Irene,
Thank you for your question. Our next bulb sale will be October 8, 2005 at Bachman's on Lyndale in Minneapolis in their Heritage Room. Our bulb chair does a great job of acquiring martagon bulbs. In September we will add our bulb list to our web page. Be sure to check then for our list of available bulbs.
There is growing interest by many gardeners to add this beautiful lily to their gardens. Along with growing in the sun, martagons will accept an open shade environment and many hosta growers add them for spring color. Here in Minnesota, martagon season begins around Father's Day. Today is June 10th and I have martagon buds that are beginning to "color-up." It won't be long until they burst into bloom.
During the growing season, you may occasionally find potted martagons at specialty nurseries. They are difficult to find because a martagon may take 7 years from seed to bloom. The best time to dig, divide and plant martagon bulbs is in the fall. We look forward to seeing you at our sale in October!
Best regards from Lil E. Um


Message: I was wondering if you need any volunteers for your A Lily Comocopia show July 9 - 10. I would really like to help if you need it.

Thanks Brooke

Hi Brooke,
Thank you for your question. We would be delighted to have you as a volunteer at our A Lily Comocopia show. We are looking forward to sharing our love of lilies with our visitors. Our show co-chair Jo Ann Hall, is taking names now and would enjoy hearing from you. You may contact her by phone at 763.588.3534. 
See you in July!
Denese Erickson
President, North Star Lily Society

Message: Can I transplant Asiatic white lilies now (May 28) in NY. They are very tall but no blooms yet till June. They are in the way and fighting with other plants/ or should I wait it out till fall. Thanks - Lythia

Hello Lythia,
Thank you for your question. While autumn is the ideal time to transplant lilies, they may actually be moved at other times during the year if extra care is taken. When transplanting during the growing season, be sure to dig them up as a clump with plenty of soil around the bulbs. This will help protect the root system that is actively supporting both the bulb and the stem. Plan to dig deeper than when you originally planted the bulbs because it is possible that the lily bulbs have drawn themselves deeper into the ground. Take care with the stems and support them as best you can. Should a stem be broken, you will lose your bloom for this season, but the bulb should survive. Be sure to replant them as deeply as they were in the old spot and in an area that receives good drainage, lilies don't do well with 'wet feet.'
Best regards and good luck with your move!
Lil E. Um
North Star Lily Society
Last year I inherited a patch of day lilies that is extremely crowded so that it doesn't produce many flowers but is a heavy mass of vegetation. I forgot to attend to them in the fall, though. Would it be okay to divide the lilies this spring or do I need to wait until next fall?

Thanks,
Heather

Hello Heather,
Congratulations on your inheritance, it is always wonderful to receive the heritage plants of family and close friends. Daylilies actually belong to the genus Hemerocallis. Our society is dedicated to the genus Lilium. While both produce a beautiful floral display, the plants are quite different in culture. We have posted a great pictorial demonstration on how to divide lily bulbs on our website. I wanted to find something similar for daylilies for you to take a look at and I found a great pictorial essay on dividing daylilies on the Tallahassee Hemerocallis Society's website. While this regional daylily society resides in Florida and it appears that you may be gardening in Michigan, I believe the information you will find there to be quite useful. Another good resource with photos is from the website of the U.S. Nat'l Arboretum. Take a look at the photos of the root structure of hemerocallis and then visit our photos of the bulb structure of lilium. Along with the differences above ground, there is quite an "underground" difference. It appears as though you will be able to divide and transplant your daylilies in the spring or fall. Lily bulb clumps are best divided in the fall although newly acquired bulbs may be planted in the spring. Lilies provide a vertical element in the garden and don't take up too much space. The fragrance of trumpets and orientals and their hybrids in the summer air is delightful. By planting a variety of lilies such as martagons, asiatics, trumpets, LA's, OT's and orientals, you could have lilies blooming in your garden from June through September.
For more information about lilies, visit the North American Lily Society website.
For more info about daylilies, visit the American Hemerocallis Society website.
The University of Minnesota has posted guidelines for dividing a number of perennials.

I hope you will find this information useful. Good luck with your garden!
Denese Erickson
President, North Star Lily Society

Hi,
Last year in northern Wisconsin the summer was wet and chilly and my mother's lilies suffered from a fungus disease which affected the leaves and parts of the blossoms. Though we treated for it, we worry the bulbs could be affected or even killed by the disease. Is this the case? My mother hopes you can advise us on this as she is a lily fan and has quite an assortment that she hopes she will not have to replace.
Thank you, A.
Lil has asked a very experienced lily grower, Duane Reynolds for his opinion. Duane is an NSLS past president and is the current committee chair for our speakers bureau. Here is his advice:

Unfortunately the correct answer is wait till next spring.
In past years in my yard Botrytis (which causes a dark brown reddish coloration to the leaves) did not kill the bulbs. Treatment is usually not effective because of the continuing rain and when I see it is already progressing in the garden. I kept fertilizing and watering as the summer dried out because the bulb was still growing.
I have also had wet (really wet) years when the bulbs were weakened so much they did not recover and died during the winter. This year in our yard we have very little snow and that could that be hurting the bulbs? especially weakened bulbs??

Summary:
One year of Botrytis shouldn't effect the bulbs. The bulb could be a little smaller, but who can tell.
Rain can seriously effect the health of the bulb and no snow with deep frost can also effect bulbs.
We need to judge each year by the seasonal variety we have in the midwest and in our gardens. Mother Nature weeds out the weaker cultivars and we as gardeners continually try to fool Mother Nature.
Duane Reynolds

Message:  "My daughter lives in southern CA and would love to be able to grow Asiatic and Oriental lilies. The area where she lives is zone 10, so short of digging them each year, I don’t think it’s possible for her to have them in her garden. She’s has asked if anyone would be able to give her an explanation and should she give it a try and see what happens to the bulbs if she would put them in the ground. There are many other beautiful flowers she CAN grow in zone 10 but she really loves lilies. Any suggestions for her?"

Lil E. Um says: Here in Minnesota with our winter dormancy, we are fortunate to easily grow many varieties of lilies. It is surprising to learn that many warmer zones have difficulty growing the beautiful lilies that we take for granted. Your question gives us the opportunity to ask our next educational speaker for the best answer. 
On March 13, 2005, Dr. Art Evans will join us to share his experiences growing and hybridizing his award winning lilies in Arkansas. His topic will be "Hybridizing Lilies for the South, East, and West." Check out our calendar of events for more information and join us. Our educational meetings are open to the public.

Here is Art's response:
" Yes, you can grow lilies in California, but if you do not want to deal with the hassle of digging in the fall and keeping the bulbs in the refrigerator all winter, you might want to consider growing tropical-adapted species, such as L. longiflorum, L. formosanum, and L. philippinense. These species are all white trumpets which don't need much, if any, winter chill. Unfortunately, all are prone to viruses, so it is best to grow them from seed, which is quick and easy, flowering in one year from seed. When I was in college, I worked for the Univ. of Arkansas as a cotton insect scout in SE Arkansas, Zone 7. One of my farmers had a zillion L. formosanum naturalized in his yard, which were quite magnificent in August. He quit mowing because he couldn't bear to cut any of them down. Another possibility is to try an assortment of LA hybrids. Some of them require very little winter chill to perform well the next year. Growers don't tell you this, so you will have to sort them out yourself. My own specialty, the OTs (also called Orienpets), are performing better in the South than even I thought they might, so give them a try as well, especially the ones which look more like trumpets. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, and there are bound to be some nice surprises out there."

Best wishes,
Art Evans


Message : When does a person apply bone meal to lilies? We are happy to answer your question as it has added importance at bulb planting time. We asked one of the most experienced lily growers in North America for his advice, Dr. Gene Fox, current President of the North American Lily Society. Here is his response.

"Bone meal is fraught with a ton of problems. It does attract animals and rodents who dig up the bulbs in a quest for the bone meal even if it is put in the hole. Sometimes insects that are harmful to the bulbs take up residence because of the food value in the bone meal. It also may initiate bulb rot if in contact with the bulb. Since bone meal is in short supply due to bans for health reasons, the companies have been stringing it out (extending it) as "Bone Meal Plus" which is a smidgeon of bone meal and ordinary chemical fertilizer. Unlike bone meal, this mix can burn plants or bulbs or at best induce fast growth and hence open the door to botrytis in the too lush green tissue.

Besides attracting animals, bone meal, after it is watered in by rains or such, attracts tree roots aplenty if any are nearby. Tree roots rob all the soil nutrients and the lily bulbs whither. Also, bone meal is not balanced. It contains really only one (P) of the magic three ingredients of say 7-7-7 or 10-10-10 or NPK. Bone meal, because it is not balanced, causes lilies to increase by division into multiple smaller bulbs so small they will not be big enough to bloom. Taking the clump up that has been so fertilized and spreading the little bulbs out in non-fertilized soil still takes a few years to get them back to bloom size and settled down from the division madness.

Finally, I would not touch it, because its contents are ground up bones and general stuff like skulls and spinal bones that may include brain cells and spinal cord cells on them and in them. These materials are the center in beasts that may be infected with Mad Cow Disease or BSE or as it is called in humans, Jacob-Kreutzfeld disease. The bacteria can live for decades in the soil and cause potential infection a decade or so down the road.

Garden supply centers push bone meal as they can triple or quadruple their sales return by selling it with tulip bulbs etc. There was a time, early last century when other fertilizers were not available and bone meal was in general use. A lot of the old garden writers recommended it and people in the field tend to recycle old methods without holding them up to the light of modern knowledge. Almost every garden columnist writes and perpetuates nonsense like, "always use a "little bone meal," because they write and do not get their hands dirty in the garden or read widely and get their eyes opened.

I would use no fertilizer year one, except good compost or good soil not used to grow lilies before. The next year when the lily is in full bud and every second year thereafter, unless inordinately wet, I would use a tablespoon of 7-7-7 or 10-10-10. Thereafter, I would use it every second year at bud time, unless the lilies got too lush, in which case I would miss a year or three. I would spread it on top of the soil near the bulb clump."
Dr. Gene Fox
President, North American Lily Society


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